• [ANSI] Re: Kamala

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HALIAN on Sat Aug 10 11:11:00 2024
    The quote answers your question: the problem with kicking the abortion issue t
    the states *is* the all-out bans that quite a few states have enacted.

    Agreed.

    Nevermind that Trump would severely restrict abortions in several ways, as outlined throughout Project 2025.

    Before he was shot, Trump successfully persuaded the GOP to remove any
    national abortion language from the party platform. The author's of
    Project 2025 might have some interest in restricting abortions on a
    national level, but I do not believe that Trump does.

    The government has no right telling a person what medical procedures they can and can't have.

    As long as they are educated, consenting adults.

    The solution is to tax, or failing that eat the rich.

    I disagree here, too. I cannot manage to hate people just because they are able to make/save more money that I do.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to halian on Sun Aug 11 15:43:06 2024
    Re: [ANSI] Re: Kamala
    By: halian to paulie420 on Fri Aug 09 2024 05:36 pm

    The solution is to tax, or failing
    that eat, the rich.

    This notion comes from the naive idea that the government has a better use for the money than the money's rightful owners.

    There is also the problem that money is not the end-all-be-all of economy. If you have a system of money redistribution in place in order to ensure the poor have money and the rich don't have as much, but the productive fabric of the country is damaged, then buying a loaf of bread will be still worth 50 bucks and poor people will still be poor people.

    Specifically, when you adjust the economic machine to ensure the low and middle classes have money but you don't have a productive fabric in place, what you get is runaway inflation and people unable to secure affrdable food and housing. I am sure this rings a bell.



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  • From Dr. What@VERT/CFBBS to Arelor on Mon Aug 12 07:14:00 2024
    Arelor wrote to halian <=-

    Specifically, when you adjust the economic machine to ensure the low
    and middle classes have money but you don't have a productive fabric in place, what you get is runaway inflation and people unable to secure affrdable food and housing. I am sure this rings a bell.

    Of course it rings a bell. It's called "Socialism" and it's never worked in the history of the world.

    You cannot "ensure the low and middle classes have money" and have a productive fabric in place. They are mutually exclusive.

    But you Ignorant Elitists keep pushing your agenda, no matter how much it keeps failing.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Mon Aug 12 10:59:00 2024
    This notion comes from the naive idea that the government has a better use for
    the money than the money's rightful owners.

    Which, as we've established that the government is not usually looking out
    for their population's interests, is an incorrect notion.

    There is also the problem that money is not the end-all-be-all of economy. If you have a system of money redistribution in place in order to ensure the poor
    have money and the rich don't have as much, but the productive fabric of the country is damaged, then buying a loaf of bread will be still worth 50 bucks and poor people will still be poor people.

    People who vote for left-leaning candidates do not understand this.

    Specifically, when you adjust the economic machine to ensure the low and middl
    classes have money but you don't have a productive fabric in place, what you get is runaway inflation and people unable to secure affrdable food and housing. I am sure this rings a bell.

    Runaway inflation is part of what lead to the rise of the Nazi's in
    Germany, and the rise of other totalitarian regimes (both fascist and communist) in other places.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/CFBBS to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 13 07:13:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-

    People who vote for left-leaning candidates do not understand this.

    They don't understand economics, human nature, ... really, they don't understand anything. They just go with what makes them feel good.

    Runaway inflation is part of what lead to the rise of the Nazi's in Germany, and the rise of other totalitarian regimes (both fascist and communist) in other places.

    Yup. It's worked before. Have the gov't create problems. Then they get lots of voters telling the gov't to fix the problems they created. When the gov't ask for more power to do that, the voters give it to them. Soon the gov't has all the power.


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