• Re: Kamala

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PAULIE420 on Sat Aug 10 11:08:00 2024
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    Indeed. I am pro-choice also and that is what both sides wanted in the past. It does put it in the people's hands, which I like, but I am concerned that some states are so strict now that you might have to carry a baby to term even if your life is in danger.

    Right - ok, I'll bite...

    But my friends who lean more to the right... they're the ones who live in Texas, LA, OH - the places were the PEOPLE have voted abortion rights DOWN....

    And my friends who care about choice live in places that DIDN'T do that; so, while *I* am pro-choice, I don't see all this jumping up and down about womens
    rights - the women that I know that want pro-choice....... have it. Today.

    And states that are more buckled down, don't - I get it.. not perfect, but neither was Roe vs Wade.

    It goes along with the example I gave. Our Republican Governor candidate,
    who lost, and his supporters wanted to be able to track the out of state
    travel habits of women of child bearing years to discourage travel to a neighboring state (likely Illinois) to receive care.

    IMHO, that is invasion of privacy and would have affected anyone who
    traveled with a women who met their criteria.

    It might not be any more, but my state was also one of the ones that went
    so strict that "life is in danger" was not an option. I *think* they
    didn't mean to do that and I *think* they fixed it. Alabama, another very strict state, went crazy with their law and accidentally made IVF illegal.

    It isn't perfect and, based on the Constitution, I think it is correct to
    let the states handle it. I just wish that some of them would have taken a moment to think about their actions before just doing it.

    Overall, I agree. I believe both groups of people did bad things and those people who did bad things need to get in trouble. However, the government (and press) on the whole seems to only believe that to be true for the Jan 6 group, which is very wrong.

    But only one group was charged, convicted and is SERVING long sentances.

    The other faction is just.... not.

    Correct, which is what I said... the government and press only believe the
    Jan 6 group did something wrong, and I disagree with them as you do.

    And that is $$$$ take it to the bank black and white - its gross.... but one side won't admit to that.

    They burned down fecking CITIES - and a couple lawyers got light sentances....
    and 100s got away; but 1/05 folks are serving ALL the time.

    Its not hard to see....

    They have been blantantly obvious about it... Summer of Love protesters
    were "peaceful" and were good, while 1/6 protesters were violent, homocidal insurrectionists and were EVIL.

    IMHO, anyone doing bad things at either time need to be in the same type of trouble but our government has failed to dole out equal punishment.

    One thing to bear in mind, too, is that during the 2020 protest season Harris encouraged people to donate to the Minnesota Freedom Fund. MFF is a fund that pays criminal bail bonds and that paid bail in order to free those
    incarcerated during the 2020 protests.

    For anyone who wants a reference to that, here it is:

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/harris-protesters-bail/

    The part I mention is the part that is true. Snopes also notes that MFF pays bail bonds for persons who violate immigration laws.


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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to DAITENGU on Sat Aug 10 14:47:00 2024
    Project 2025 is Trump's Policy. One of the most terrifying things he wants to do (and tried to do at the end of his last presidency) is change a large chunk of low level federal civil service workers from standard hires to political appointees, so they can install loyal cult members into these positions.

    He neutered certain parts of the RNC Platform for 2024. I don't think
    Project 2025 will be followed to the T.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Neofree on Sun Aug 11 14:41:21 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Neofree to All on Mon Aug 05 2024 09:09 pm

    Kamala should be the next president of the United States of America because theother two people who were running are both very old and out of touch and both
    have conerns about their future mental health.

    Kamala sounds to me like a whole load of "more of the same." Considering "the same" has been drawing the US past the point of no return I don't consider it to be positive.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Neofree on Sun Aug 11 14:47:23 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Neofree to Denn on Tue Aug 06 2024 03:24 pm

    I stand by that Kamala has the best mental health of the 3. She hasn't done anything concering to me about that. Like you said, who cares what race she is, but when it comes to firsts, if she is elected she will be the first woman to be a president. And when it comes to what race she wants to go by, I'm sureshe can take a 23AndMe test too and use the highest percentage if she wanted,

    That is quite an issue right there. For a party bent of making race and gender irrelevant, they put so much effort of making them relevant.

    Only the KKK cares so much about this stuff, word. And now Democrats.

    I guess it is not 100% Kamala's fault, since Obama pioneered the technique of abusing identity politics to generate division for political gain. Most current Democrats re just following a path that ws established before them. They are still responsible for walking down that road.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Aug 11 17:30:14 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Arelor to Neofree on Sun Aug 11 2024 02:41 pm

    Kamala should be the next president of the United States of America because theother two people who were running are both very old and out of touch and both
    have conerns about their future mental health.

    Kamala sounds to me like a whole load of "more of the same." Considering "the same" has been drawing the US past the point of no return I don't consider it to be positive.



    kamala and her vp candidate have drank tons of sperm so that might be
    something different.
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  • From Weed Hopper@VERT/LOCALYOC to MRO on Mon Aug 12 10:27:06 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Aug 11 2024 05:30 pm

    kamala and her vp candidate have drank tons of sperm so that might be something different.
    https://i.imgur.com/YrdKsor.png

    What do you call Kamala when she has a runny nose?

    Full.

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  • From Neofree@VERT to Arelor on Mon Aug 12 19:03:55 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Arelor to Neofree on Sun Aug 11 2024 02:41 pm

    Re: Kamala
    By: Neofree to All on Mon Aug 05 2024 09:09 pm

    Kamala should be the next president of the United States of America because theother two people who were running are both very old and out of touch and both
    have conerns about their future mental health.

    Kamala sounds to me like a whole load of "more of the same." Considering "the same" has been drawing the US past the point of no return I don't consider it to be positive.


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    That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist. One was rape of a minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby got away with it for a long time.

    At this point I'd vote for a bum on the street and say OH WELL before I voted to end the USA and become a country like Nazi Germany once was.

    Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.

    Doesn't matter he's losing anyway.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/CFBBS to Neofree on Tue Aug 13 07:13:00 2024
    Neofree wrote to Arelor <=-

    That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist.
    One was rape of a minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby
    got away with it for a long time.

    At this point I'd vote for a bum on the street and say OH WELL before I voted to end the USA and become a country like Nazi Germany once was.

    Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap
    someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.

    Doesn't matter he's losing anyway.

    It looks like we need to put in a copium mine. There's a rich vein here.


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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Weed Hopper on Tue Aug 13 10:00:20 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Weed Hopper to MRO on Mon Aug 12 2024 10:27 am

    Ok, THAT was funny!

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Neofree on Tue Aug 13 10:06:16 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Neofree to Arelor on Mon Aug 12 2024 07:03 pm

    Explain to me how Trump admires Putin OR N Korea, please. I'm dying to see this...

    And if you REALLY think Kamala is BETTER then Trump, you're either high as a kite, or jumt plain blind to stupidity.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NEOFREE on Tue Aug 13 10:29:00 2024
    That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported >cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist. One was rape of a >minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by >putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby got away with it for a long time.

    If Harris and the Democrats want to really show that they care about those
    23 cases, they would release the Epstein client list and expose several of their own members and donors (and likely some Republicans, too) who are
    likely guilty of sex crimes.

    Until then, they are really on no higher ground when it comes to sexual
    assualt and misconduct.


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  • From Weed Hopper@VERT/MOJO to KnightMare on Tue Aug 13 19:03:32 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: KnightMare to Weed Hopper on Tue Aug 13 2024 10:00 am

    Re: Kamala
    By: Weed Hopper to MRO on Mon Aug 12 2024 10:27 am

    Ok, THAT was funny!


    Thanks, I stole it. :)

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Neofree on Tue Aug 13 22:51:13 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Neofree to Arelor on Mon Aug 12 2024 07:03 pm

    That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist. One was rape of a minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby got away with it for a long time.

    Lol, you watch to much CNN, Racheal Madcow and the Hags at the Veiw, do you also listen to Morning Joe?
    1st off it was a kangaroo court of all hardcore leftist's (including the jury).
    Most charges were made up, and the others were not crimes.
    All this really amounts to is leftist election interference and Biden going after a political rival.
    Heels up Harris probably won't become President, She can't be trusted to command the Military of the most powerful Nation on earth.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Neofree on Wed Aug 14 17:21:32 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Neofree to Arelor on Mon Aug 12 2024 07:03 pm

    That's fine. Do you really want to vote in a convicted felon with 23 reported cases of sexual assualt? Yes all those case numebrs exist. One was rape of a minor too. I guess that's what money buys you. The ability to cover it up by putting fear into your victims. Bill Cosby got away with it for a long time.

    At this point I'd vote for a bum on the street and say OH WELL before I voted to end the USA and become a country like Nazi Germany once was.

    Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.


    My country has a History of voting or empowering scumbags so there is nothing North Americans can teach us asbout it.

    But since you want to go there, whataboutism is an awful debating strategy because by using it you are conceeding your position sucks, and then you try to convince it just sucks less than the alternatives. This might be viable, but if this was a court it would be considered Affirmative Defense, which nearly everybody agrees is an awful thing. "Sure, I confess I stole that million dollar, but I can cling to a flimsy exception in the law that may save my butt. Now I need to prove the exception applies, instead of having you force to prove I stole the money."

    This is made worse by the fact the average Trump supporter can just entrench and say "Things were so good with Trump that I don't mind if he is a criminal or not." This is an utilitarian response (Utilitarism being a pilar form many Socialist movements by the way, so it would be a bit hypocritical to argue against it). Trump supporters pride themselves in being able to defend the Trump administration by pointing out its successes rather than having to resort only to tearing down ceaselessly at the opposition (which, quite frankly, is the only thing Democrats can do).


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 16 12:48:51 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Neofree to Denn on Tue Aug 06 2024 03:24 pm

    She's an idiot with no plan to fix anything. Trump at least has a plan to fix the economy. Kamala doesn't even know what an economy is.

    What's her plan?

    Her plan is to be president, she'll stop at nothing to attain that title.
    She has no clue about how an economy works.

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  • From KnightMare@VERT/TELEGRAP to Denn on Sat Aug 17 08:14:23 2024
    Re: Kamala
    By: Denn to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 16 2024 12:48 pm

    Her plan is to be president, she'll stop at nothing to attain that title. She has no clue about how an economy works.

    If I may be so bold to add to that...

    She got to the top because she was on the bottom.
    She's got ZERO creditibilty. It's proven she's kept criminals longer than their sentence so CA can have cheap labor. Shes locked up people for weed, and she's ADMITTED she's smoked "and inhaled". The list is endless... i can provde more if requested.

    There's an old gag question when you meet someone that's clueless and yet has a job which is CLEARLY not their forte' "Who did they blow to get this job?" Well for Cameltoe, EVERYONE that was needed to be serviced to elevate her position while elevating her own body count.

    Do you REALLY think DJT has commited all those crimes? IIRC, didn't Jon Stewart DO THE EXACT SAME THING as far as valuation fuckery? Nothing happened to him... Oh yea, HE'S NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT...

    Simps...

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  • From Matthew Munson@VERT/IUTOPIA to NEOFREE on Sun Aug 18 12:14:00 2024

    Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.
    I think he was trying to think outside the box with Kim Jong Un, doing
    the same thing for decades was not working.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MATTHEW MUNSON on Mon Aug 19 12:34:00 2024
    Trump Admires Putin. Trump Admires Kim Jong Un. Is this some crap someone made up? Nope! Watch Trumps own words.

    I think he was trying to think outside the box with Kim Jong Un, doing
    the same thing for decades was not working.

    Exactly. Acting like a country and their leader doesn't exist unless they
    are threatening South Korea or Japan was not working at all.


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