Judge rules DOGE's USAID dismantling likely violates the Constitution

https://apnews.com/article/usaid-federal-judge-trump-administration-bdc919a5d98e
da5ab72a32fdfe2f147d

https://tinyurl.com/585rpts6

The key take away from this ruling is that the judge has used Musk's own words and social media posts against him to prove that he is more than just an advisor to Trump and that it is indeed Musk that has "firm control" over DOGE.

That establishes legal precidence that can be used in future cases against DOGE.

Oooops-a-dooopses.

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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Dumas Walker to All on Wed Mar 19 2025 09:02 am

Judge rules DOGE's USAID dismantling likely violates the Constitution

https://apnews.com/article/usaid-federal-judge-trump-administration-bdc919a5 d98 e

I hope donald trump becomes a life long dictator and shoots or hangs
anybody who opposes him.

it would be a huge improvement.

Honestly though, i'm laughing my ass off how people are reacting to elon musk. people are really triggered just by looking at the guy.
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Hey Dumas!

On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:02:00 -0500, you wrote:

Judge rules DOGE's USAID dismantling likely violates the Constitution

That establishes legal precidence that can be used in future cases
against DOGE.

Oooops-a-dooopses.

How does a judge of any kind rule that something "likely" happens? That's like saying "possibly" or "probably".

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Wed Mar 19 2025 02:57 pm

Oooops-a-dooopses.

How does a judge of any kind rule that something "likely" happens? That's like saying "possibly" or "probably".

yeah, judges either rule that something IS, or IS NOT.
so if his information is not bullshit it'll go to the supreme court.

basically democrats are just going to sandbag and go after trump to the end of his term. just like last time. should hang them all
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Hey MRO!

On Wednesday, 19.03.25 21:29:08, you wrote:

yeah, judges either rule that something IS, or IS NOT. so if his information is not bullshit it'll go to the supreme court.

That's where I was going with my reply. If it really happened, then the writer of said article definitely used the wrong words in their headline. Otherwise, it was probably a bullshit news source.

basically democrats are just going to sandbag and go after trump to the
end of his term. just like last time. should hang them all

There shouldn't be any hanging, of any kind. Republicans went after Biden and company just as much during his term, too, even though it didn't get nearly as much media presence.

Regards,
Nick

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Judge rules DOGE's USAID dismantling likely violates the Constitution

That establishes legal precidence that can be used in future cases against DOGE.

Oooops-a-dooopses.

How does a judge of any kind rule that something "likely" happens? That's

ike

saying "possibly" or "probably".

I think it is like a preliminary ruling. They do that in cases where there
is some sort of injunction requested... in this case, to have USAID
functions restroted... and then they would later go on and hear the case in full.

The judge seemed pretty confident that Musk has proven, by his own words,
that he is in full control of DOGE and not just a special advisor as has been claimed.


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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Accession to MRO on Wed Mar 19 2025 09:22 pm

end of his term. just like last time. should hang them all

There shouldn't be any hanging, of any kind. Republicans went after Biden and company just as much during his term, too, even though it didn't get nearly as much media presence.

Regards,

I dont care about political allegiances. A lot of our politicians are literally criminals who disobey their oath of office. These people are bought out by pharm companies and who know else, they do insider trading, they do quid pro quo deals to build up their wealth and countless other things.

What most of our politicians do is essentialy treason. we'd be better off without them and I think they should be tried for their crimes.

Regarding republicans going after biden, i have not seen anybody go after someone like they've gone after trump. Democrats actually neglected important duties to go after trump, and this is verifiable by public records. They didn't do their jobs(ie show up to work and vote on agendas, follow meeting agendas or even meet for rulings) so they could go after trump on several occasions.

If you're not doing your job, you need to go, just like regular jobs.
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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Dumas Walker to ACCESSION on Thu Mar 20 2025 08:41 am

I think it is like a preliminary ruling. They do that in cases where there is some sort of injunction requested... in this case, to have USAID functions restroted... and then they would later go on and hear the case in full.

it's a liberal judge from a liberal state. of course he's going to do something against trump. it's a vague ruling and they will appeal and it will go to the supreme court or just die out. it's just more sandbaging and wasting time.
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Hey Dumas!

On Thursday, 20.03.25 13:41:00, you wrote:

How does a judge of any kind rule that something "likely" happens? That's
like saying "possibly" or "probably".

I think it is like a preliminary ruling. They do that in cases where there is some sort of injunction requested... in this case, to have USAID functions restroted... and then they would later go on and hear the case in full.

Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe". Are you sure this is a reliable source?

The judge seemed pretty confident that Musk has proven, by his own words, that he is in full control of DOGE and not just a special advisor as has been claimed.

We'll see how it plays out, if there's anything to play out at all. If most of these news sites are starting to incorporate AI, we're all in for a world of hurt as far as fake news goes - as if there wasn't enough of it already.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey MRO!

On Thursday, 20.03.25 16:18:04, you wrote:

What most of our politicians do is essentialy treason. we'd be better off without them and I think they should be tried for their crimes.

I agree with this. But hanging is a thing of the past.

Regarding republicans going after biden, i have not seen anybody go after someone like they've gone after trump. Democrats actually neglected important duties to go after trump, and this is verifiable by public records. They didn't do their jobs(ie show up to work and vote on
agendas, follow meeting agendas or even meet for rulings) so they could go after trump on several occasions.

That's because the media is actually publishing all of this. They were either told not to, or just didn't want to report all of the things the Republicans were going after the Biden administration for.

Other than that, the Democrats haven't done their jobs in the past (at least) 4 years, either. Why would they start now?

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Accession to MRO on Thu Mar 20 2025 06:11 pm

Hey MRO!

On Thursday, 20.03.25 16:18:04, you wrote:

What most of our politicians do is essentialy treason. we'd be better off without them and I think they should be tried for their crimes.

I agree with this. But hanging is a thing of the past.

Treason can carry the death penalty.
Politicians have done political favors for china, russia and other countries for monetary gain for themselves and family members. For example, Russia and other countries paid money into american lobbying firms for politicians.

If we'd start hanging these fuckers instead ignoring it, we'd get rid
of the bad ones. Instead they become lifetime participants in our branches of govt and that is why everything sucks.
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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Thu Mar 20 2025 06:07 pm

Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe". Are > sure this is a reliable source?

This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and the charges, the term is "preponderence of the evidence", and the "burden of proof" is not "beyond a reasonable doubt". If the burden needs to be beyond doubt, then the only two answers are yes/no. Otherwise (in about 80% of all cases), the burdenis lower and the ruling only needs to be it "likely happened".

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Hey Jimmy!

On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:38:06 -0400, you wrote:

This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and the charges, the term is "preponderence of the evidence", and the "burden of proof" is not "beyond a reasonable doubt". If the burden needs to be beyond doubt, then the only two answers are yes/no. Otherwise (in about 80% of all cases), the burdenis lower and the ruling only needs to be it "likely happened".

If it's very common, that's probably why they get replaced and/or voted out so often.

That said, I'll "likely" not believe rulings like this, or take them seriously.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Jimmy to Accession on Fri Mar 21 2025 09:38 am

Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Thu Mar 20 2025 06:07 pm

Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe". Are

sure this is a reliable source?

This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and the charges, the term is "preponderence of the evidence", and the "burden of proof" is not "beyond a reasonable doubt". If the burden needs to be beyond doubt, then the only two answers are yes/no. Otherwise (in about 80% of all cases), the burdenis lower and the ruling only needs to be it "likely happened".

it's just a waste of time and it ties up shit in court until it's thrown out or not pursued. it's sandbagging.
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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: MRO to Jimmy on Fri Mar 21 2025 09:57 pm

Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe" > > This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and the charg > it's just a waste of time and it ties up shit in court until it's thrown out > not pursued. it's sandbagging.

It is how it is supposed to work. It is not a "waste of time", unless you don'tunderstand the system and misinterpret what is happening. Which I assume is thecase, based on your other comment, "the judge should be impeached for it". For
what? For doing his/her job the way it is supposed to be done, according to therules? You might not like the system or the rules of that system, and that is
fine. Change the rules instead of the penalizing people for obeying the rules as currently written.

Rule: judge must determine if evidence "suggests the accusation is likely to have occured".
Judge: It is likely to have occured.
MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

Tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue.

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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Jimmy to MRO on Sun Mar 23 2025 08:10 am

Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: MRO to Jimmy on Fri Mar 21 2025 09:57 pm

Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe"

This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and

the charg > it's just a waste of time and it ties up shit in court until it's thrown out > not pursued. it's sandbagging.

It is how it is supposed to work. It is not a "waste of time", unless you don'tunderstand the system and misinterpret what is happening. Which I assume is thecase, based on your other comment, "the judge should be

No, it's not how it's supposed to work. Judges are supposed to be clear and concise. If they are not, their rulings are overturned.

have occured".
Judge: It is likely to have occured.
MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

Tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue.

i really hate that lame ass expression 'tell me this without telling me blah blah'

I can't wait until you shitdicks stop saying it.
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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Jimmy to MRO on Sun Mar 23 2025 08:10 am

assume is thecase, based on your other comment, "the judge should be impeached for it". For
what? For doing his/her job the way it is supposed to be done, according to

by the way, instead of LYING and making up quotes people don't say, use
your bbses quote feature.

moron.
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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Jimmy to MRO on Sun Mar 23 2025 08:10 am

Rule: judge must determine if evidence "suggests the accusation is likely to have occured".
Judge: It is likely to have occured.
MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, but as far as I thought, accepting a case as solid enough for further research was not "ruling".


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Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Arelor to Jimmy on Thu Mar 27 2025 08:00 pm

Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
By: Jimmy to MRO on Sun Mar 23 2025 08:10 am

Rule: judge must determine if evidence "suggests the accusation is likely to have occured".
Judge: It is likely to have occured.
MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, but as far as I thought, accepting a case as solid enough for further research was not "ruling".

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Rule: judge must determine if evidence "suggests the accusation is likely t
have occured".
Judge: It is likely to have occured.
MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, but as far as I thought, accepting a case as solid enough for further research was not "ruling".

Correct. It can also mean the judge believes the case is solid enough to implement an injunction, like to force the government to take the employees back and with backpay.


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