Belly wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Re: Re: Gun Insurance
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DR. WHAT on Sun Jun 26 2022 01:51 pm

Hi, Jimmy... I think we might know one another in RL.

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Hey there! Please, how? :-)

BTW - I normally sign into another BBS, but it's been down, and
I've been waiting for it to come back. Seeing as it's uncertain
when it will (or if), I've decided today to look at others that
I've tried in the past, just to check up on echomail...




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Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a
"mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed
each day by handguns.

Definitely true. Chicago probably tops that list. The city with the strictest gun laws anywhere. What they forget is that criminals don't
obey laws.

I really don't understand how someone like me can explain that to
someone who seems to be able to follow logic and seems to be resonably intelligent, yet they won't understand it. IMHO, some of them just
think that guns are scary and we are better off with less of them, but
the "criminals don't obey laws" logic should be equally as scary.

Yeah - don't get me wrong, I enjoy owning and shooting guns and have
ZERO intentions of every putting a round into ANYONE, but at the same
time I carry with the intent of self defense.

BUT - I had a friend say something to the effect of "I don't like
guns - they were designed to kill - I'd rather there not be
any guns" and I honestly agreed with him! If it would prevent
people from hurting other people? I'd be all for it! But making
MY guns illegal while not removing ALL guns (bad guys, military,
our government, other governments) is not the answer. That just
creates a defenseless target...






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Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-

The real problem is mental health, and the fact that so many are not
able to get treatment for their issues.

It goes well beyond mental health. Crazy people are a minority of shooters when compared to organized crime and gang murders. What
happened to the beliefs that life has value?

THIS! Yes, mental health is AN issue, but not THE issue. When there
is no santity of life, then ANY life is forfeit.

I am a Christian and I believe we are all created in His image. As
image bearers, we have value. If we really were just 'apes in skin'
as evolutionists would have you believe, then what's wrong with the
strong eating the weak?

Life is precious! From the unborn up!




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Arelor wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

The fact there is so much school violence should point out the fact
that schools are structured as stressful places in which people is
broken past the point of no return. I never see anybody talking about this.

In my (not so) humble opinion, when I was a kid we didn't have school shootings. What we DID have was the 10 commandments on the wall,
corporal punishment, the Gideons bringing New Testaments to everyone
in Fifth Grade...

We removed those things and now look what we have...




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Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-

While I hated being treated like crap by bullies, I never had thoughts
of killing anyone. Coming back later in life and making them miserable sounded more fun.

For me, I was bullied as well, and I finally had enough and 'stood up'
for myself. But it was a fight - I had no intentions of really hurting
the guy - I just wanted the bullying to stop. No way did I ever consider
taking anyone's life!

Now that I'm a Christian, I feel bad about people I held a grudge against
for the bullying and abuse, and have actually come to terms with it in the sense that my failure to forgive was hurting ME, not them...

I actually blogged about it too...

https://jimmylogan.substack.com/p/forgive



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Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-

Going out in a blaze of "glory" garners way more attention. Leave
behind a note or a manifesto, and it will be on the news regardless how poorly written or illogical it is.

Bonnie and Clyde? They still talk about them!



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Weatherman wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a "mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed each day by handguns.

Suffice it to say more people are killed by handguns each year than by rifles of any time.

Suicides account for more firearms related deaths each year than any other. Rifles of any type are seldom utilized in suicide attempts.

The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human
life. The cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the
society in which we live.

Agreed! And unless something has changed, more people are killed each
year by 'fist and foot' than guns anyway...




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BUT - I had a friend say something to the effect of "I don't like
guns - they were designed to kill - I'd rather there not be
any guns" and I honestly agreed with him! If it would prevent
people from hurting other people? I'd be all for it! But making
MY guns illegal while not removing ALL guns (bad guys, military,
our government, other governments) is not the answer. That just
creates a defenseless target...

Indeed it does.

There are some science fiction pieces that tell cautionary tales about societies giving up their guns, including the militaries of the planet,
only to be invaded by armed visitors from other planets. :)

Mike


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Jimmy Anderson wrote to Weatherman <=-

Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a "mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed each day by handguns.

Suffice it to say more people are killed by handguns each year than by rifles of any time.

Suicides account for more firearms related deaths each year than any other. Rifles of any type are seldom utilized in suicide attempts.

The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human
life. The cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the
society in which we live.

Agreed! And unless something has changed, more people are killed each
year by 'fist and foot' than guns anyway...

... <A>bort <R>etry <D>o what I mean!!!

Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't forget that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).


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Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't forget that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).

I have always suspected that they are going after rifles more lately
because they figured out that their private body guards are more likely to carry a handgun and they don't want to have to give the body guards up.

"They" in this case being celebrities and politicians.


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Re: Re: Gun Insurance
By: Dumas Walker to WEATHERMAN on Mon Jan 09 2023 04:18 pm

Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't for that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).

I have always suspected that they are going after rifles more lately
because they figured out that their private body guards are more likely to carry a handgun and they don't want to have to give the body guards up.

"They" in this case being celebrities and politicians.

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The celebrities and politicians with armed guards are elitists, and believe there will be exceptions that will allow their security to carry in airports and other suposed gun-free zones.

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DUMAS WALKER wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-

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Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't

forget

that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).

I have always suspected that they are going after rifles more lately because they figured out that their private body guards are more likely
to carry a handgun and they don't want to have to give the body guards
up.

"They" in this case being celebrities and politicians.

Well - that, and they have to start somewhere...




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Re: Re: Gun Insurance
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DUMAS WALKER on Tue Jan 10 2023 01:19 pm

DUMAS WALKER wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-

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Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't

forget

that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).

I have always suspected that they are going after rifles more lately because they figured out that their private body guards are more likely to carry a handgun and they don't want to have to give the body guards up.

"They" in this case being celebrities and politicians.

Well - that, and they have to start somewhere...

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While creating the National Firearms Act of 1934, a complete ban on handguns was on the list. Other countries followed suit so subjects can only own full length single shot shotgun or single shot rifles. Resistance to a complete handgun ban was very strong. I know anti-gun folks who think owning a
handgun for home use is fine, while long guns are terrible. If the firearm ne ver left the home, size would not be important. The law being put into effect's emphasis was on concealed firearms carried by criminals, and long gun s being cut down so they could be carried concealed under long coats. Suppressors got thrown in not because gangsters owned them. They were more co ncerned about poachers tresapassing and not getting caught.

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Re: Re: Gun Insurance
By: Jimmy Anderson to Belly on Thu Jan 05 2023 11:27 am

Hey there! Please, how? :-)

If WTETA means something to you, then probably... It's been so long now that I don't recall what sparked the connection!


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Belly wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

Re: Re: Gun Insurance
By: Jimmy Anderson to Belly on Thu Jan 05 2023 11:27 am

Hey there! Please, how? :-)

If WTETA means something to you, then probably... It's been so long now that I don't recall what sparked the connection!

Yeah - I don't remember the conversation - WTETA to me is West Tennessee Educational Technology Association - I used to be a very active member...




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Re: Re: Gun Insurance
By: Jimmy Anderson to Belly on Thu Mar 09 2023 05:51 pm

If WTETA means something to you, then probably... It's been so long now that I don't recall what sparked the connection!

Yeah - I don't remember the conversation - WTETA to me is West Tennessee Educational Technology Association - I used to be a very active member...

One and the same... Olympic steak house. I remember you playing guitar at at least one of the picnic meetings.


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BELLY wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

If WTETA means something to you, then probably... It's been so long now that I don't recall what sparked the connection!

Yeah - I don't remember the conversation - WTETA to me is West Tennessee Educational Technology Association - I used to be a very active member...

One and the same... Olympic steak house. I remember you playing guitar
at at least one of the picnic meetings.

WOW! Figured it was just a coincedence on the acronym!

Yep, that's me! I still play guitar, but it stays at church most of the time...

So - Belly - and what BBS are you using? And who exactly are you? I am intrigued! LOL





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