Hey Mro!

On Wed, Jan 14 2026 23:37:56 -0600, you wrote:

you can get a step van for pretty cheap. they are nice and square
and the roof is a good surface for solar panels. you can insulate
them and still have standing up room. Dont need a CDL and most
people wouldn't have a problem driving them. Windowmaker bridges
won't take them out because they aren't too high.

You don't need a CDL for any kind of RV in Wisconsin, not even a 40+ foot class A bus. My RV is a class C, which is basically an E350 van front end with a small house on the back and over the top.

go on youtube they have some great videos.

I'm not interested in anything smaller than what I have, to be honest. We started with a pop-up camper way back when, then had kids. So as the years went on, the camper got bigger.

But yes, I have seen the converted-to-living-space vans, which are called a "class B" RV.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Poindexter!

On Thu, Jan 15 2026 10:15:44 -0600, you wrote:

I was thinking more of a westy - although I should make the limit
having an indoor shower and toilet...

While that would definitely be way too cramped for my family, whatever floats your boat!

Speaking of boats, get a yacht and you can camp on the water or docked by land. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: Weenie Roast
By: Accession to MRO on Thu Jan 15 2026 04:54 pm

them and still have standing up room. Dont need a CDL and most
people wouldn't have a problem driving them. Windowmaker bridges
won't take them out because they aren't too high.

You don't need a CDL for any kind of RV in Wisconsin, not even a 40+
foot class A bus. My RV is a class C, which is basically an E350
van front end with a small house on the back and over the top.

yeah i wasn't saying that you did. i was just saying that incase some people thought a step truck would need one.
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Re: Re: Weenie Roast
By: Accession to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jan 15 2026 05:05 pm

whatever floats your boat!

Speaking of boats, get a yacht and you can camp on the water or
docked by land. ;)

Regards, Nick

there are people who are doing that in minnesota right now.
there's a few of them on tiktok. they just have to move every 14 days.
they have bubblers around their boat so it can't freeze in.
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Re: Re: Weenie Roast
By: Accession to MRO on Thu Jan 15 2026 04:54 pm

But yes, I have seen the converted-to-living-space vans, which are
called a "class B" RV.

Regards, Nick

not sure if you know this but by step van i mean like what fedex, ups, etc uses. i think they can go up to around 22ft.

there's a lot of room to work with.
https://i.imgur.com/IGBdpbF.png
I think winnebago brave started out with step van design.
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Accession wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

While that would definitely be way too cramped for my family, whatever floats your boat!

Speaking of boats, get a yacht and you can camp on the water or docked
by land. ;)

There are people on Youtube doing a British version of VanLife -
converting narrowboats that were used in the 1700s and 18
00s to transport cargo along the canals in mid-England. It's a peaceful
looking life, the boats have a lot of potential, and you spend your life motoring down canals and visiting little villages that used to be mini
trade routes through the country.



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Hey Mro!

On Fri, Jan 16 2026 00:22:09 -0600, you wrote:

not sure if you know this but by step van i mean like what fedex,
ups, etc uses. i think they can go up to around 22ft.

I can honestly say I've never seen this before.

there's a lot of room to work with. https://i.imgur.com/IGBdpbF.png
I think winnebago brave started out with step van design.

I suppose you can turn just about anything into a camper if you add a bed or a couch. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: Weenie Roast
By: Accession to MRO on Fri Jan 16 2026 02:55 pm

I suppose you can turn just about anything into a camper if you add
a bed or a couch. ;)

yeah but what i'm getting at is these cheap step vans provide a good
framework for making a camper and it's quite popular for people to do this.

not sure if you know this but by step van i mean like what fedex,
ups, etc uses. i think they can go up to around 22ft.

I can honestly say I've never seen this before.

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MRO wrote to Accession <=-

I suppose you can turn just about anything into a camper if you add
a bed or a couch. ;)

yeah but what i'm getting at is these cheap step vans provide a good framework for making a camper and it's quite popular for people to do this.

Quite popular? I have never EVER seen one (converted to a "camper"), anywhere.

Maybe for people who's family trees have no branches?

How many of these does your family own?



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Re: Re: Weenie Roast
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Accession on Wed Jan 14 2026 06:56:54

My wife and I have talked about getting an RV, but the reality is that
we both snore. And now my dog (he's 11) has started snoring. An RV
might be a little too small.

Not to mention disturbing the other campers. :)

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Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Colorfones on Fri Jan 09 2026 07:30 am

There really is an art to simple dishes, I always screw around in the kitchen and its easy to muddy up the flavor profile of things by dumping them full of spices and not letting the individule ingredients make kinda layers of flavour, somethings i do like alot of spices like when smoking a turkey it kinda lets it infuse
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Years ago, there was a restaurant chain called "Steak Out" in
central Arkansas. Their sirloin steak tips were absolutely delicious!!
My late wife and I would order them on a regular basis...went real
good with A1 Steak Sauce.

yeah. They had those in Mississippi, too. I loved theier steak salads.
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in the 50s and then the entire chain adopted it.

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Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Robert Wolfe to DARYL STOUT on Wed Jan 21 2026 02:28 pm

During Lent, places that normally don't sell fish
(Arby's, Wendy's, etc.) have it on their menu, so they can pick up
the Catholic clientele.

Lore has that this is why one McD's franchisee created the
Filet-O-Fish in the 50s and then the entire chain adopted it.

it was a contest between a pinneapple burger and fillet o fish.
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I believe Burger King has one year round. Arby's and Wendy's only have them during Lent.

A couple years ago, I noticed Popeye's has a fish sandwich
during Lent too.

They have to pick up the Catholic clientele.

Daryl

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I think sauerkraut is only really good with certain things. A
bratwurst or Polish dog is probably the only thing I like
sauerkraut with.

There's a family in the Xenia, Ohio area...all licensed ham radio operators...mother, father, and daughter, and they all LOVE sauerkraut.
They even attend a yearly sauerkraut festival up there.

They can have my portion. :P

Daryl

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Never thought of tomato on a hot dog...but I do enjoy them.

I think that's a Chicago thing - pepperoncinis, chopped onion
and tomato slices.

Interesting.

Daryl

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Robert,

Years ago, there was a restaurant chain called "Steak Out" in
central Arkansas. Their sirloin steak tips were absolutely delicious!!
My late wife and I would order them on a regular basis...went real
good with A1 Steak Sauce.

yeah. They had those in Mississippi, too. I loved theier
steak salads. ---

I don't know of any restaurant that offers those anymore.

Daryl

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Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Daryl Stout to Nightfox on Tue Jan 27 2026 22:11:56

There's a family in the Xenia, Ohio area...all licensed ham radio operators...mother, father, and daughter, and they all LOVE sauerkraut. They even attend a yearly sauerkraut festival up there. They can have my portion.

You're not the only one: :) https://youtu.be/JE37e1eK2mY?si=brBAUA66nDSUsl09&t=564

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Re: Re: The Breakfast Club
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 29 2026 10:36 am

I noticed you use MultiMail. Why do you prefer it over logging in to your BBS to read messages?

I've used multimail with other BBS mail but not my own.

Have you used readers on Linux? Anything besides MultiMail.

I know your using it on Win; but I use Linux for my BBS and daily stuff unless I'm on work computer which is MacOs.

Anybody else have comments/recommendations in using MultiMail?

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Amessyroom wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Re: Re: The Breakfast Club
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 29 2026 10:36 am

I noticed you use MultiMail. Why do you prefer it over logging in to
your BBS to read messages?

I'm not him, but will jump in for my $0.02 worth.

I use it because I like that I can define my editor of choice to use
when writing replies (I use 'nano' on Linux). Also it shows me any new
files that have arrived since last packet. Also makes it easy to stop
if needed and return later to finish reading/writing.

I've used multimail with other BBS mail but not my own.

Have you used readers on Linux? Anything besides MultiMail.

I don't know of any decent Linux alternatives. Long ago I used 'SLMR'
with a DOS emulator, but it was a little awkward, and I greatly prefer
the functionality of MultiMail.

I know your using it on Win; but I use Linux for my BBS and daily stuff unless I'm on work computer which is MacOs.

Same here.

Anybody else have comments/recommendations in using MultiMail?

Yes, see above. ;-) I highly recommend it.



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Amessyroom wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Re: Re: The Breakfast Club
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 29 2026 10:36 am

I noticed you use MultiMail. Why do you prefer it over logging in to
your BBS to read messages?

It has taken me some time to get the hang of using Multimail, but now
that I have been using it for a while it is starting to grow on me.
One reason why I like it is that I can use my editor of choice for
message replies.

Anybody else have comments/recommendations in using MultiMail?

From what I can tell so far the only thing I have found challenging to
do in Multimail is replying to a sender privately via NetMail.
From what I have experienced the only way I can do this is to copy down
the sender information out of the message and go to the e-mail area and
fire up a fresh message to them.
I do not seem to have the option to replying to a message from an echo
itself privately.


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Amessyroom wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Re: Re: The Breakfast Club
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 29 2026 10:36 am

I noticed you use MultiMail. Why do you prefer it over logging in to
your BBS to read messages?

I prefer console text editors, and like being able to bounce up and
down through different echoes reading new messages.

It's a bit of a throwback for me -- this setup is virtually identical
to what I used back in 1992 when I got my first BlueWave door for my
BBS. Back then, it was busy all the time with people reading messages
online. Once I got the door in place, my callers per day shot up and
the quality of messages improved.

Have you used readers on Linux? Anything besides MultiMail.

Just MultiMail - my daily driver laptop was running Ubuntu, and I
duplicated the setup. I used nano instead of Qedit, my DOS editor.

Anybody else have comments/recommendations in using MultiMail?

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Khronos wrote to Amessyroom <=-

From what I can tell so far the only thing I have found challenging to
do in Multimail is replying to a sender privately via NetMail.
From what I have experienced the only way I can do this is to copy down the sender information out of the message and go to the e-mail area and fire up a fresh message to them.
I do not seem to have the option to replying to a message from an echo itself privately.

I think that depends on the network and the BBS, but I've been able to
send fido netmail via Multimail. DOVEnet uses QWK technology, I don't
think that works with sending netmail through DOVEnet.



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Khronos <=-

Khronos wrote to Amessyroom <=-

From what I can tell so far the only thing I have found challenging to
do in Multimail is replying to a sender privately via NetMail.
From what I have experienced the only way I can do this is to copy down the sender information out of the message and go to the e-mail area and fire up a fresh message to them.
I do not seem to have the option to replying to a message from an echo itself privately.

I think that depends on the network and the BBS, but I've been able to send fido netmail via Multimail. DOVEnet uses QWK technology, I don't think that works with sending netmail through DOVEnet.

I was trying to send mail through an ftn.
I think the reason why my client has trouble doing this is that when I
am reading an echo it only shows the echo number on the bbs such as 200x
for Dovenet, 300x for Fidonet and 400x for Fsxnet.
Based on this fact the MM client does not know that it is interacting
with an ftn based area so this is mostlikely why netmail can't be sent / received through the area directly.
When reading ftn based areas the only way I know what system the
messages are coming from is to read the origin line at the bottom of the message.
So the main issue I am having is that when using qwk with Multimail
every echo looks like a local area even though it may be connected to a network at the end of the day.

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Anybody else have comments/recommendations in using MultiMail?

I logon to download the packets, and it's easier for me to do the QWK
mail first. Then, I can skip through the messages I don't need to read, although I'm still joined to a particular message area (weather related).

Daryl

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You're not the only one: :)

Sauerkraut -- an angry German. Sounds like Colonel Klink when he realized that Colonel Hogan got the best of him. <G>

Daryl

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Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Daryl Stout to Mortar on Tue Feb 03 2026 17:47:27

Sauerkraut -- an angry German. Sounds like Colonel Klink when he realized that Colonel Hogan got the best of him. <G>

"HOOOOGAAAAN!"

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Daryl Stout wrote to Mortar <=-

Sauerkraut -- an angry German. Sounds like Colonel Klink when he realized that Colonel Hogan got the best of him. <G>

And I'm of the age that I heard Werner Klemperer saying "HoGANNNN! when I
read that.


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Sauerkraut -- an angry German. Sounds like Colonel Klink when he realized that Colonel Hogan got the best of him. <G>

And I'm of the age that I heard Werner Klemperer saying
"HoGANNNN! when I read that.

He lamented that being Colonel Klink defined his career. Yet, he was
also an excellent orchestral conductor.

Another thing...Colonel Klink said "this guy has a terrible scar on
his face". It never occurred to Klink that his monacle was scratched. <G>

Another episode had the wife of Bob Crane (Hogan) as Klink's Secretary.
Klink couldn't dance worth a flip, and when Hogan said "I haven't danced
in years", she said "I thought you'd never ask".

While they're dancing, Hogan tells her "Careful, honey...you're steaming
up Klink's Monacle!!". <G>

They think he's going to talk about the Norden bomb...but it was a brand
of vacuum cleaner. <G>

Daryl

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Sauerkraut -- an angry German. Sounds like Colonel Klink when he realized that Colonel Hogan got the best of him. <G>

"HOOOOGAAAAN!"

Or like General Burkhalter: "Klink, you could marry my sister".

Or Major Hochschtetter: "What is this man doing here??!!".

They don't make them like that anymore.

Daryl

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He lamented that being Colonel Klink defined his career. Yet, he was
also an excellent orchestral conductor.

And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,
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"HOOOOGAAAAN!"

Or like General Burkhalter: "Klink, you could marry my sister".

Or Major Hochschtetter: "What is this man doing here??!!".

They don't make them like that anymore.

True. My husbanf and I watch 2 or 3 episodes every night before going
to bed on the hogan's heroes channel on pluto tv. then again, I also
have the complete series on DVD.

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Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Robert Wolfe to DARYL STOUT on Sat Feb 07 2026 12:19 pm

He lamented that being Colonel Klink defined his
career. Yet, he was also an excellent orchestral conductor.

And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,

all this talk of hogans heros just reminds me of the sex tape gangbang stuff and the murder.


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Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Robert Wolfe to DARYL STOUT on Sat Feb 07 2026 12:19:00

And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,

Jack Benny was the same way.

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Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Robert Wolfe to DARYL STOUT on Sat Feb 07 2026 12:19:00

And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,

Jack Benny was the same way.

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On 2/10/2026 7:46 PM, Robert Wolfe wrote to MORTAR:

Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Robert Wolfe to DARYL STOUT on Sat Feb 07 2026 12:19:00

And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,

Jack Benny was the same way.

I did not know that.
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Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Robert Wolfe to Robert Wolfe on Wed Feb 11 2026 08:18 am

Re: Re: Can't get anymore ret By: Robert Wolfe to DARYL STOUT on Sat Feb 07 2026 12:19:00

And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,

Jack Benny was the same way.

I did not know that.

liberace was a great pianist but he sucked on the organ.


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Re: He Must be Buggin'
By: Mortar to phigan on Wed Dec 31 2025 01:46 pm


no way not eating bugs here

On 2/12/2026 1:17 AM, STARBASE wrote to MORTAR:

Re: He Must be Buggin'
By: Mortar to phigan on Wed Dec 31 2025 01:46 pm

no way not eating bugs here

Here ,. :)

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Re: Can't get anymore ret
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Dec 30 2025 21:36:55

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Robert,

He lamented that being Colonel Klink defined his career. Yet, he was
also an excellent orchestral conductor.

And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,

The mannerisms of the characters are what made that series memorable.

Daryl

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And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,

The mannerisms of the characters are what made that series

memorable.

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And violinist, though on screen his character played it badly,

The mannerisms of the characters are what made that series

memorable.

true, that.

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