So there's this new thing that's happening on social media. People with a
lot of followers are posting videos "mom what did you look like in the
90s'. Celebs are even doing it. People are saying it's for Ai to farm
data so they can do facial recognition And age progression. I'm sure
it's happening someplace.
yep.. people are basically "working" for free in various ways now on social media. doing surveys, telling their parents eye colors and hair colors and other things to say "hey look how i turned out!" .. they have to make the census compulsory because people hate doing bullshit for free and then they give away all sorts of stuff online..
same with discord.. which is likely the source of an AI model for guessing people's ages based on how they talk, what about, their interests, etc. and you can pretty much guarantee it also has a nice little graph about whether people "think incorrectly" ..
even on here, likely owing to the prevalence of that sync web interface, any link i post is immediately scraped by AI .. which obviously means the whole message was.. they all were.
What do you think of world.org as a potential solution to this very fundamental issue?
What do you think of world.org as a potential solution to this very
fundamental issue?
It seems to be yet another form of ID collection.
What's to guarantee that there isn't another person using your name and claiming to be the authentic version? It seems that the world.org only takes the face and the eyes.
And, since the end result is "digital" data, what's to prevent that from being faked?
How can you be sure that no one can "steal" your identity by using a photo for the registration process?
Re: AI FARMING. WHAT DID
By: Ogg to Mindsurfer on Mon Mar 23 2026 17:35:00
What do you think of world.org as a potential solution to this very
fundamental issue?
It seems to be yet another form of ID collection.
What's to guarantee that there isn't another person using your name and claiming to be the authentic version? It seems that the world.org only takes the face and the eyes.
And, since the end result is "digital" data, what's to prevent that from > Og> being faked?
How can you be sure that no one can "steal" your identity by using a photo for the registration process?
1. "What's to guarantee that there isn't another person using your name?" Actually, World ID does not use names at all. It is not a "Name-based ID."
Proof of Personhood: The system only verifies that you are a unique human, not who you are. There is no field for "Name," "Address," or "Date of Birth" in the protocol.
The Uniqueness Check: When someone scans their iris, the Orb creates a mathematical "Iris Code." If another person tried to register as "you," they couldn't, because their iris pattern is different. If they tried to use your iris, they would need your physical presence at the Orb (see the photo/fake section below).
2. "Since the end result is 'digital' data, what's to prevent that from being > faked?"
This is where Zero-Knowledge Proofs (ZKPs) and Cryptography come in.
The Iris Hash: The Orb doesn't just save a picture of your eye. It converts the pattern into a one-way mathematical code (a hash). You cannot reverse-engineer this code to recreate an image of an eye.
Zero-Knowledge Proofs: When you use your World ID to log into a service, you don't send your biometric data. Instead, the protocol sends a cryptographic proof that says: "I have a valid, unique iris code in the database, but I am not showing you which one it is." Because it is backed by blockchain technology, this proof cannot be forged or "doubled."
3. "How can you be sure no one can 'steal' your identity by using a photo?" The Orb is specifically engineered to prevent "spoofing" (fake inputs).
Liveness Detection: The Orb uses a suite of sensors, including infrared cameras, 3D sensors, and thermal imaging. It checks for a pulse, the reaction > of the pupil to light, and the three-dimensional structure of the eye.
High-Resolution Detail: A standard photo or even a high-resolution screen does not have the depth or the multi-spectral signature of a living human eye. The AI models running on the Orb are trained to instantly distinguish between a high-res print/screen and real human tissue.
World isn't trying to collect your 'Identity' (Who you are); it is verifying your 'Humanness' (That you are a real, unique person). It designed so that you can prove you are a human online without ever having to reveal your name or personal details to the apps you use.
https://whitepaper.world.org/
I understand the criticism levelled at systems like World.org, but I also realise that with AI we have opened Pandora box, and we need a way to identify ourselves as unique individuals in the digital realm when dealing with data-processing systems.
I am open to hearing and accepting a better solution. At the moment, it seems > to me that only World.org has a functioning system that still protects the
user privacy 100%.
Mindsurfer
What do you think of world.org as a potential solution to this very
fundamental issue?
It seems to be yet another form of ID collection.
What's to guarantee that there isn't another person using your name
and claiming to be the authentic version? It seems that the world.org
only takes the face and the eyes.
And, since the end result is "digital" data, what's to prevent that
from being faked?
How can you be sure that no one can "steal" your identity by using a
photo for the registration process?
1. "What's to guarantee that there isn't another person using your name?"
Actually, World ID does not use names at all. It is not a "Name-based ID."
Proof of Personhood: The system only verifies that you are a unique human,
not who you are. There is no field for "Name," "Address," or "Date of
Birth" in the protocol.
The Uniqueness Check: When someone scans their iris, the Orb creates a
mathematical "Iris Code." If another person tried to register as "you,"
they couldn't, because their iris pattern is different. If they tried to
use your iris, they would need your physical presence at the Orb (see the
photo/fake section below).
2. "Since the end result is 'digital' data, what's to prevent that from
being faked?"
This is where Zero-Knowledge Proofs (ZKPs) and Cryptography come in.
The Iris Hash: The Orb doesn't just save a picture of your eye. It converts
the pattern into a one-way mathematical code (a hash). You cannot
reverse-engineer this code to recreate an image of an eye.
Zero-Knowledge Proofs: When you use your World ID to log into a service,
you don't send your biometric data. Instead, the protocol sends a
cryptographic proof that says: "I have a valid, unique iris code in the
database, but I am not showing you which one it is." Because it is backed
by blockchain technology, this proof cannot be forged or "doubled."
3. "How can you be sure no one can 'steal' your identity by using a photo?"
The Orb is specifically engineered to prevent "spoofing" (fake inputs).
Liveness Detection: The Orb uses a suite of sensors, including infrared
cameras, 3D sensors, and thermal imaging. It checks for a pulse, the
reaction of the pupil to light, and the three-dimensional structure of the
eye.
High-Resolution Detail: A standard photo or even a high-resolution screen
does not have the depth or the multi-spectral signature of a living human
eye. The AI models running on the Orb are trained to instantly distinguish
between a high-res print/screen and real human tissue.
World isn't trying to collect your 'Identity' (Who you are); it is
verifying your 'Humanness' (That you are a real, unique person). It
designed so that you can prove you are a human online without ever having
to reveal your name or personal details to the apps you use.
https://whitepaper.world.org/
I understand the criticism levelled at systems like World.org, but I also
realise that with AI we have opened Pandora box, and we need a way to
identify ourselves as unique individuals in the digital realm when dealing
with data-processing systems.
I am open to hearing and accepting a better solution. At the moment, it
seems to me that only World.org has a functioning system that still
protects the user privacy 100%.
Mindsurfer
We should use butthole pics. no 2 buttholes are the same. they are more Unique than fingerprints.
You keep a saved image of my butthole and each time i email you i send you a picture of said butthole. You compare it to the one you have on file. it matches and you know it came from me.
I call it PGBP.
Send me a PM if you want mine.
Nvm i'll send it to you right now.
I appreciate the creative, if somewhat graphic, effort to simplify the concept with your "PGBP" analogy. However, it actually highlights exactly why > traditional photo-based verification is failing and why the World/Orb
technology is a necessary evolution.
Here is why your example fails from a technical and cryptographic
Proof of Personhood: The system only verifies that you are a unique human, not who you are. There is no field for "Name," "Address," or "Date of Birth" in the protocol.
The Uniqueness Check: When someone scans their iris, the Orb creates a mathematical "Iris Code." If another person tried to register as "you," they couldn't, because their iris pattern is different. If they tried to use your iris, they would need your physical presence at the Orb (see the Mindsurfer
We should use butthole pics. no 2 buttholes are the same. they are more Unique than fingerprints.Just tell us you are a Juggalo lol. But yeah that sounds like a logical next step, the BVP .. Butt Verification Protocol .. I'd be able to fake so many logins just from looking at fb videos, would be insane.. dang ole dang ole sloots..
You keep a saved image of my butthole and each time i email you i send you a picture of said butthole. You compare it to the one you have on file. it matches and you know it came from me.
I call it PGBP.
Send me a PM if you want mine.
Nvm i'll send it to you right now.
In the age of AI and deepfakes, photos are easily forged or stolen. The Orb uses multi-spectral sensors and infrared to ensure it is looking at a
hairy) would be rejected instantly because it lacks a pulse, 3D depth, and pupil response.
compare it. This is exactly what World avoids. The Orb deletes the biometric image immediately after creating a mathematical hash (the Iris Code). When verifying later, a user sends a Zero-Knowledge Proof (ZKP). The receiver confirms "this is a unique human," but never sees the source data or the "file."
Mindsurfer
Proof of Personhood: The system only verifies that you are a unique human,
not who you are. There is no field for "Name," "Address," or "Date of
Birth" in the protocol.
I'm sure they surely don't do that, only unintentionally.. They actually do a lot more than that.
The Uniqueness Check: When someone scans their iris, the Orb creates a
mathematical "Iris Code." If another person tried to register as "you,"
they couldn't, because their iris pattern is different. If they tried to
use your iris, they would need your physical presence at the Orb (see the
Mindsurfer
Ooh my favorite part actually. That is where plucking peoples eyeballs out becomes a thing as seen in the movies. Actually don't know what this Orb is you speak of but it doesn't sound good.
In the age of AI and deepfakes, photos are easily forged or stolen. The Orb
uses multi-spectral sensors and infrared to ensure it is looking at a
hairy) would be rejected instantly because it lacks a pulse, 3D depth, and
pupil response.
This is why we don't need it, and don't want it. It saves everything, don't let things fool you. These responses seem like they were made by AI even..
compare it. This is exactly what World avoids. The Orb deletes the
biometric image immediately after creating a mathematical hash (the Iris
Code). When verifying later, a user sends a Zero-Knowledge Proof (ZKP). The
receiver confirms "this is a unique human," but never sees the source data
or the "file."
Nothing is deleted. What do you think all the server infrastructure is being built for? Amongst other things, like global subscriptions and everything without being able to own a computer to play some latest games, or even browse the web sort of..get my drift?
We should use butthole pics. no 2
buttholes are the same. they are mo > Unique than fingerprints.
Re: AI FARMING. WHAT DID
By: MRO to Mindsurfer on Tue Mar 24 2026 04:52 am
Proof of Personhood: The system only verifies that you are a unique human, not who you are. There is no field for "Name," "Address," or "Date of Birth" in the protocol.
I'm sure they surely don't do that, only unintentionally.. They actually do a lot more than that.
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